Comments on: The email confirmation / paste disabling antipattern https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/ User Experience Design, Research & Good Old Fashioned Usability Wed, 01 May 2019 06:13:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Design patroon: Geef e-mailadres groot weer bij registratie | MediaKip https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-151523 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:27:52 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-151523 […] Percent of Everything schreef onlangs over het ‘email confirmation antipattern‘. Een website (ODEON in dit geval) verzoekt de gebruiker om twee keer een e-mailadres in te […]

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By: Design patroon: Geef e-mailadres groot weer bij registratie | Mediakip https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-146016 Thu, 30 Dec 2010 21:48:44 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-146016 […] Percent of Everything schreef onlangs over het ‘email confirmation antipattern‘. Een website (ODEON in dit geval) verzoekt de gebruiker om twee keer een e-mailadres in te […]

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By: Flow Interactive :: The Think blog. » Confirm your typo https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-131604 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:35:01 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-131604 field. Quite creative, but I agree with Harry that it could feel patronising, especially for the more tech-savvy people (who know how to copy-paste). On the other hand, it prevents people (hopefully) from simply replicating a typo made in the first field. And typos are arguably one of the commonest kinds of incorrectly entered details. Now let me ask, why do most websites actually use the wording ‘Confirm your email’? Let’s use ‘Re-type your email’ instead, and it might not be necessary to awkwardly disable standard system interactions like pasting. [...]]]> […] Harry Brignull wrote about a registration form that does not allow pasting into the ‘Confirm email’ field. Quite creative, but I agree with Harry that it could feel patronising, especially for the more tech-savvy people (who know how to copy-paste). On the other hand, it prevents people (hopefully) from simply replicating a typo made in the first field. And typos are arguably one of the commonest kinds of incorrectly entered details. Now let me ask, why do most websites actually use the wording ‘Confirm your email’? Let’s use ‘Re-type your email’ instead, and it might not be necessary to awkwardly disable standard system interactions like pasting. […]

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By: tom https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-125569 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:27:28 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-125569 @Matt

Have you seen what posterous do?

http://posterous.com/

They go even further, and all you have to do is email them with the account you’d like to use.

I think the way there’s is implemented kind of boggles the mind though.

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By: Matt https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-125554 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:57:31 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-125554 I was thinking something similar to joshka. Reverse the whole flow of registration though…

Page 1:
Enter your email address to get started…
email address
submit/cancel

Page 2 – Upon submission:
We sent a message to the address you provided to confirm your registration. Check your inbox to finish registering…

Message was sent to: [largeFont]address[largeFont]
Wrong address? [link]Try Again[link].

Page 3 – Upon clicking confirmation link in email:
Fill out the rest of the fields here and we’ll get you on your way!
[fields…]
submit/cancel

The flow might be less than familiar but I think I am getting the warm and fuzzies.

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By: joshka https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-122910 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:35:39 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-122910 I’d suggest that another way of dealing with this is to provide a method of confirming the email address asap.

The first and only piece of information that a user is asked for initially is their email address. The site then sends the user an email while they are entering their name, address etc. details. The time that it takes between entering the email address and filling in demographic information will allow enough time for the system to have sent the email (hopefully).
On the confirmation screen the site should then show a message saying that an email was sent, show the address that the email was sent to, and allow the user to modify the address and resend the email confirmation.

I’d argue that confirmation of email addresses (how does the system contact you) is a different problem than getting address / order info (where do I send stuff to you). Handling them as one process rather than two is the problem here.

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By: Craig https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-122896 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:57:24 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-122896 look at the demographics though..
I hate this “cannot paste in this field”…

I think the amount of mistakes in people who know how to use ctrl+v must be much much lower than that of people who don’t have a clue..

Form history helps, but that’s disabled too…

personally don’t think it’s great… for a proficient user.. but to a new user of the net – they will probably never see the field comment box!!!!

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By: Design patroon: Geef e-mailadres groot weer bij registratie https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-121398 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:23:58 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-121398 […] Percent of Everything schreef onlangs over het ‘email confirmation antipattern‘. Een website (ODEON in dit geval) verzorgt de gebruiker om twee keer een e-mailadres in te […]

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By: zephyr https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-120356 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:16:42 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-120356 I always copy and paste, but that also forces me to look at the address again, which is helpful.
And I agree that many users will not even know how to copy/paste.

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By: Jamie https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119975 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:18:55 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119975 I concur with Tom.

I work for a company that has to confirm booking and payment details with the customer. Should the email be mistyped (and copied), they will have no confirmation and then there’s potential for legal wrangling and negative publicity.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of web users weren’t even aware that they can cut and paste. So for the sake of irritating a few, it seems viable.

That said, this method is a bit crass and could do with a better solution.

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By: tom https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119974 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:10:39 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119974 @Johan – have you seen what Jakob Nielsen suggests about masking passwords:

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/passwords.html

I think he’s gone cuckoo.

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By: Johan Strandell https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119971 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:13:27 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119971 @tom: the reason most sites require you to retype your password is because you can’t see what you’ve typed, so typing it twice keeps down errors where the you thought you entered one password but typed another.

But disabling copy and paste is stupid – I’d guess that users that copy and paste have a lower failure rate than others, and doing it this way just irritates them.

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By: Brian https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119948 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:15:44 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119948 It’s hilarious how you describe this site treating you like a child. :D Still, I’m surprised that no one has thought to be MORE helpful in these situations.

What about this approach?

Don’t ask someone to type in their email address at all! Have them SHOW you their email address using the typical manner that they send email.

Something as simple as a mailto: link could be used to push a “signup key” into whatever mail client a person uses. Have a backend process feeding the new account creation routine harvest the incoming email address and link it to the new account.

The experience is reduced to two clicks: one on the link, the other to send. Done.

Maybe offer a fallback experience of typing into two fields for people who dont have a mail client handy or configured (or want to split work/home email addresses in mixed contexts).

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By: tom https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119943 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:54:33 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119943 I do agree about messing with the browser behaviour – I can’t really imagine the design / process that got that implemented?!! I suspect a rogue developer!

The context’s certainly important – you wouldn’t want to type your email address twice in on the comments form on a blog or signing up for a newsletter.

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By: Harry Brignull https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119939 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:19:42 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119939 It’s nice to have a healthy debate about these things – your disagreement is welcomed! My main problem with it relates to the fact that they disabled paste. It just feels so wrong.

The other thing to consider is how “life critical” the site is. Some accounts are more throw-away than others. There’s a big difference between online banking and joining a discussion forum, for example.

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By: tom https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119938 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:15:19 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119938 I disagree.

Mistyping your email has such severe repercussion that the couple of seconds inconvenience is worth it.

I’d be shocked if the number of users who mistype their email address isn’t far higher than 1/1000.

I know I have a number of times – once I even had an order cancelled (with no notification because they didn’t have my correct email address!).

Disabling copying does seem a little over the top – most browsers will auto complete anyway… but I’d be more annoyed about having to give them my exact date of birth!

Few people complain about having to type in their password twice (ok it’s obfuscated) but at least a mistyped password can be recovered if you have a valid email address!

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By: Alex https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119932 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:51:13 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119932 @eincarsten

One of the links provided in this post leads to the post about what you and other folks are describing. That’s a great helper.

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By: eincarsten https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119931 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:30:06 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119931 I recently saw a nice wrap up that summarizes in the solution: better present the entered address than let it be entered twice. Unfortunately I can’t remember where.

The email address entered should be presented in the way like “A confirmation will be sent to [email]” in a different typo (bigger, differernt colour).

The rationale behind the solution was that it is more likely that typos will be recognized when the object is read in combination with the action. And users swith from entering to reading which raises awareness.

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By: Alex https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119926 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:28:30 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119926 I’ve found that the best way to make sure that people don’t make mistakes when they type their email is to make sure that they can actually SEE what they type.

This means making using a larger font in the signup form – see this good example from 37signals.

https://signup.37signals.com/basecamp/Free

Especially if it’s a small form, it makes no sense to have a couple of small fields in the middle of an empty page and have people struggle with reading what they type.

Even for larger forms, I’d favour a larger font size and improved input accuracy against worrying that people may find the page too long.

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By: Andrew Hancox https://www.90percentofeverything.com/2010/02/25/the-email-confirmation-paste-disabling-antipattern/#comment-119923 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:15:27 +0000 http://www.90percentofeverything.com/?p=2946#comment-119923 One technique I’ve seen is making an AJAX call to do a dns lookup on the domain of the email address supplied to check that it’s valid and has an mxrecord. This is an incomplete solution but does at least check part of the address.

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