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> <channel><title>Comments on: If you haven&#8217;t already seen the Adobe Thermo demo&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/</link> <description>User Experience Design &#38; Research, written by Harry Brignull</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:50:52 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Harry Brignull</title><link>http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-39286</link> <dc:creator>Harry Brignull</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:37:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/#comment-39286</guid> <description>Good points MH, but I still think it&#039;s cool.
Previously, building high fidelity UI mock-ups was exclusively the domain of developers. Now (if Thermo works as advertised) interaction designers, information architects and usability researchers can be involved in the activity. Currently, the loop from user research findings, to code iteration, and then to re-testing can take a while. Thermo (or something like Thermo) could cut the loop entirely.
Personally, instead of using Photoshop I&#039;d rather have a tool more like Visio, Omnigraffle or Axure to input into Thermo.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points MH, but I still think it&#8217;s cool.</p><p>Previously, building high fidelity UI mock-ups was exclusively the domain of developers. Now (if Thermo works as advertised) interaction designers, information architects and usability researchers can be involved in the activity. Currently, the loop from user research findings, to code iteration, and then to re-testing can take a while. Thermo (or something like Thermo) could cut the loop entirely.</p><p>Personally, instead of using Photoshop I&#8217;d rather have a tool more like Visio, Omnigraffle or Axure to input into Thermo.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MH</title><link>http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-39273</link> <dc:creator>MH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:00:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/#comment-39273</guid> <description>It sounds impressive on the surface, but I sense a lot of caveats:
- Only produces Flex, so doesn&#039;t integrate into just any architecture. If I&#039;ve got an already running web app that uses behaviors from javascript library X, I&#039;m probably out of luck.
- Working with dummy data is great, as long as your application is fairly simple. Is there persistence across multiple pages? I design a lot of pages that have a large number of conditional states, which would be incredibly hard to mock up in Photoshop.
- It seems something like this serves to discourage collaboration with developers. A functional prototype is great, but there&#039;s a lot more that needs to be communicated with developers that won&#039;t be apparent from running the prototype.
Also, the premise that all interface designs start with Photoshop is somewhat bogus. I don&#039;t know anyone who works that way unless they&#039;re producing brochureware.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds impressive on the surface, but I sense a lot of caveats:</p><p>- Only produces Flex, so doesn&#8217;t integrate into just any architecture. If I&#8217;ve got an already running web app that uses behaviors from javascript library X, I&#8217;m probably out of luck.</p><p>- Working with dummy data is great, as long as your application is fairly simple. Is there persistence across multiple pages? I design a lot of pages that have a large number of conditional states, which would be incredibly hard to mock up in Photoshop.</p><p>- It seems something like this serves to discourage collaboration with developers. A functional prototype is great, but there&#8217;s a lot more that needs to be communicated with developers that won&#8217;t be apparent from running the prototype.</p><p>Also, the premise that all interface designs start with Photoshop is somewhat bogus. I don&#8217;t know anyone who works that way unless they&#8217;re producing brochureware.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Harry Brignull</title><link>http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-39228</link> <dc:creator>Harry Brignull</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:54:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/#comment-39228</guid> <description>I think it&#039;s for Interaction Designers / Information Architects rather than graphic designers. This is what Keith Lynch, Chief Architect @ Adobe has to say about it:
&quot;We&#039;re not doing a general solution for anyone to build an application. That&#039;s one of the key things--we had to be specific about who the audience is. [...]  It&#039;s for people who [...] have a background in interface design [...] But they are primarily a designer. &quot;
Source: News.com article &quot;Adobe plots its path on the Web&quot; (4th Oct 07)
http://tinyurl.com/yut5o8</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s for Interaction Designers / Information Architects rather than graphic designers. This is what Keith Lynch, Chief Architect @ Adobe has to say about it:</p><p>&#8220;We&#8217;re not doing a general solution for anyone to build an application. That&#8217;s one of the key things&#8211;we had to be specific about who the audience is. [...]  It&#8217;s for people who [...] have a background in interface design [...] But they are primarily a designer. &#8221;</p><p>Source: News.com article &#8220;Adobe plots its path on the Web&#8221; (4th Oct 07)</p><p><a
href="http://tinyurl.com/yut5o8" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yut5o8</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hanford</title><link>http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-39055</link> <dc:creator>Hanford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/#comment-39055</guid> <description>I wonder if artists can grok it that far, or if Thermo is going to end up being more of a tool for some sort of artist/programmer hybrid.  I mean, I knew a lot of artists who couldn&#039;t use slices correctly, or really be able to make selections and edits accurately enough in photoshop. I was always getting on my artists at ReplayTV for not getting their coordinates and button shapes pixel perfect.   It does look promising for me though.
great find.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if artists can grok it that far, or if Thermo is going to end up being more of a tool for some sort of artist/programmer hybrid.  I mean, I knew a lot of artists who couldn&#8217;t use slices correctly, or really be able to make selections and edits accurately enough in photoshop. I was always getting on my artists at ReplayTV for not getting their coordinates and button shapes pixel perfect.   It does look promising for me though.</p><p>great find.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan</title><link>http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-39046</link> <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:14:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.90percentofeverything.com/2008/01/03/if-you-havent-already-seen-the-adobe-thermo-demo/#comment-39046</guid> <description>Oh yeah, that&#039;s just what I want.  Designers thinking they can code.  Swell.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, that&#8217;s just what I want.  Designers thinking they can code.  Swell.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
